The Endgame is Near for Phones


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  • Dave Lee
    Dave Lee   3 months back

    Commoditization = Super cheap but stale smartphones. Would you want that?

    • Leslie Villacruel
      Leslie Villacruel  24 hours back

      I'd rather launch a smartphone with new os which doesn't need hardware and software updates that much.
      I mean, we need a phone that doesn't need upgrading for 3-5 years.
      Unlike current ones, you can only use them for a year or two and you'll start experiencing lags and lack of software support.
      Google's android should start thinking of creating a version which takes 3-5 years before an upgrade becomes necessary.
      Releasing a new phone model doesn't help mother nature, not eco-friendly at all.

    • Cyber Crow
      Cyber Crow  4 weeks back

      You're wrong, phones can be innovative and cheap at the same time.

    • Cesc
      Cesc  4 weeks back

      Do you @Dave Lee (and anyone else), see this happening to laptops as well? I am really starting to see laptops as boxes with CPUs and GPUs form third parties + a given number of Gb of RAM and SSD storage. I'll get whatever box offers me the combination I am looking for at the better price.

      The other day I went to a Lenovo Store and something funny happened: I ended up asking prices for the Ideapad330 and the Legion Y30 on the exact same combination of CPU, GPU, RAM, SSD and HDD. The Legion was significantly more expensive just for being a "gaming" laptop, the clerk really struggled to explain me why one would be that much more expensive thant the other one if the specs where the same. Yeaah finishings and cooling and some other stuff, but the differnce was almost double.

    • Mind Freshener
      Mind Freshener  1 months back

      I never pay 1500 for a flagship. I would buy 2 year old model for 400, at the most. And of course, Samsung is the only thing worth paying for. Samsung is the Korean Toshiba. I don't think we will see similar from China because they have a different business model. I don't doubt that anyone can be as good as Samsung, they just don't want to.

    • eastlondonhustler
      eastlondonhustler  1 months back

      What do you mean by stale ?
      As smartphones are getting cheaper, you're getting close to cutting edge specs at a lower price point, and as long as you can get close to high end hardware, the software possibilities are endless with rooting and custom ROMS, so i don't really think staleness would be an issue at all.
      Yes of course i'd want a cheap smartphone that can do as much if not more than a more expensive one, who wouldn't ?

  • Roguishly Handsome
    Roguishly Handsome  9 minutes back

    They need to start supporting their devices longer and stop making $1k disposable phones. Maybe if a 2-year old android phone could really be used safely, people would hesitate less to replace them and older phones would be more realistically giftable and resellable. Devices would have a longer, healthier life cycle and a profitable business model could be created around that.

    • Denise Timana
      Denise Timana  7 hours back

      My phone was $25.

      • Lynx
        Lynx  14 hours back

        Now a days, mid to high end smartphones costs like $500 to $800.
        Just keep in mind that, not eveybody earns that much to spend that much. $250 - $350 smartphones were kind of afforable, even though afforable doesn't mean has to buy a phone with that much cost. So, they find alternatives with lower price and better quality. Brands like Oppo, Vivo, Huawei are becoming competitors of Samsung.

        • lol
          lol  23 hours back

          for $1000 dollars your phone needs to last 5+ years. shoot, even tho i have an iphone SE it's considered "old" cause it came out in 2016, it's crazy. the expected lifetimes of these phones are too short for how much they cost

          • Leslie Villacruel
            Leslie Villacruel  24 hours back

            I miss those days when phone manufacturers doesn't release new phones unless there's a "drastic" change.
            I mean, annual flagship? Totally not helpful.

            • Doan Trinh
              Doan Trinh  1 days back

              It’s going to be AR / VR.

              • Leonardo Ramirez
                Leonardo Ramirez  1 days back

                I mean, I do see a recession coming soon bigger than the 2007/2008 one. People can’t afford to pay their rent, much less spend their money on an upgraded phone.

                • Major Bollocks
                  Major Bollocks  1 days back

                  stolen tech much. Let's be honest in could huawei have made such a substantial increase is so short a time? you tell me?

                  • James Pak
                    James Pak  1 days back

                    corporate greed losing in at least ONE segment. Still, idiots with too much money will still buy the "high end" shit

                    • Mr Marine
                      Mr Marine  2 days back

                      lets see. free phones, then 300.00 phones, then self destructing phones, then 1k phones. how to maintain profit in a declining market? raise the price. no way in hell is a smart phone worth 1k.

                      • john f
                        john f  2 days back

                        prices too high, not only that theyre causing the very problems that they justify high prices for, when somthing is 1000 dollars you expect perfection, then you get a new glitchy phone that is the nature of new products, and you then return it becuase, hey its a 1000 dollar phone and needs too be perfect and the cycle continues until poof SHTF. you mutiply this by a few other very similar senarious and you get them lowering the price 200 dollars, do you guys think they will not try recover those losses if the ploy succeeds, so we see the fallout for this in the next generation of products. perhaps its intential a purposful push away from traditional products too convince us too invest elsewhere, perhaps preparation for 5g and the entrance of new vr and ar technology along with mira tech, similar too walmart's security imposement too convince people not too shop instore and promote them too use delivery and pickup services.

                        • JesusGreen
                          JesusGreen  2 days back

                          I think the innovation that could be key is to build the perfect all in one device. We see Samsung trying it with Samsung Dex. If Dex ever became as fully featured as a regular computer, it could mean people could purchase a phone and use it as their only device. On the go? Use your phone. Sitting on the couch and want to use a tablet? Here pair this handheld wireless touchscreen monitor with your phone to switch it to tablet mode. At your desk? Just pair with your desktop monitor setup and run Dex and now you have a computer.

                          • Matthew DeBoer
                            Matthew DeBoer  2 days back

                            Apple started the expensive smartphone trend, and now Samsung is marginally more expensive, with their s10 plus topping out at over $2000 (Canadian). But at least they offer budget phones in the 200-400 range

                            • g.swell
                              g.swell  2 days back

                              Got a new s10e for 90 bucks. Ninety fucking dollars. It's insane.
                              Premium phones are the thing of the past now.

                              • AL Ian
                                AL Ian  3 days back

                                *I'm waiting for phones to hit $2000 then I'll buy a new one.*

                                • Minty Lad
                                  Minty Lad  3 days back

                                  Bought a Redmi K20 pro yesterday. Blown away by it. Snapdragon 855 processor. 8 gigs of ram. 256 gigs of memory. Super amoled edgeless display. Pop up selfie camera. Beautiful build quality. And all for 549 euro.

                                  • hae chan
                                    hae chan  3 days back

                                    this is a cool concept and until you realize that most people buy phones through their carriers and thus are financially obliged to get a new phone every two years

                                    • timtime88
                                      timtime88  3 days back

                                      my next phone will be whatever brand that keeps/bring back a headphone jack.

                                      • Zbsish rth
                                        Zbsish rth  3 days back

                                        I have a dream that soon medical services too would be in such perile.

                                        • MrSmity101
                                          MrSmity101  3 days back

                                          Honestly if cell phone companies are going to be putting people on a 2 year contract manufacturers should use that to their advantage make a new flag ship phone every two years so this way you get more time for development and make the product worth while and so when the new phones do come out people will be able to upgrade to the new phone if they so please

                                          • jesus delgado
                                            jesus delgado  3 days back

                                            Make actual foldable phones or transparent screens & I'll throw over $1,000 for a phone. I'm not throwing my money for something that doesn't stand out.

                                            • O. L. C.
                                              O. L. C.  3 days back

                                              my s9 will stay until it breaks

                                              • jonn pegu
                                                jonn pegu  3 days back

                                                Could it be that it's simply because people are BROKE!!! just saying.

                                                • Kahwai Ho
                                                  Kahwai Ho  3 days back

                                                  You don't need to have a deep pocket to get a lot of good innovative stuff nowadays.

                                                  • Deruzzi
                                                    Deruzzi  3 days back

                                                    Nice, people finally realise they don’t need any crazy phone to use Instagram, spend that money on a pc for actual usage

                                                    • Haitham Mogherbi
                                                      Haitham Mogherbi  3 days back

                                                      I just picked up, based on your previous video review, a Samsung A20. I had been an iPhone fanboy since the first one came out, then they started getting way too expensive and the difference between what an iPhone could do versus what an android can began to slim. Why pay all that money when a cheap Samsung can give me decent pix, whatsapp, google maps, and a few other features I'll never seriously use? I had a bad taste in my mouth when it was revealed that apple was slowing down iPhones. I also own a 2017 MacBook Pro which has an awful keyboard and keys that get stuck on my occasional fallen eyelash or other random debris. If Samsung or another laptop maker offers a serious MacBook Pro alternative (aluminum or metal casing, reliable ecosystem, etc), then I'll ditch apple and not even look back.

                                                      • Kyle McDermott
                                                        Kyle McDermott  4 days back

                                                        Companies should just start releasing phones every other year instead of each year.

                                                        • Ramza
                                                          Ramza  4 days back

                                                          I bought a year old iPhone SE a year ago for $250 and it was a deal that was acceptable to me.
                                                          If I paid $500 for a phone I'd question my sanity, priorities and regret my purchase for a while.

                                                          • Glenn Cuevas
                                                            Glenn Cuevas  4 days back

                                                            I bought chinese phone named Leagoo for $90 with 4gb ram and water drop. chinese company just trying to lower the value of phones and if dominant phones will not step up the game, the thing you mentioned will happen..

                                                            • Colt Parker
                                                              Colt Parker  4 days back


                                                              • Meissnerflux
                                                                Meissnerflux  4 days back

                                                                Imo producers have lost sight of what's important in a phone: reception (ability to make a call/use data), battery life (the extent to which you can make a call/use data), and durability/form factor (why this weird FETISH of having no bezels or a "smooth" glass phone... Are people trying to make a fashion statement or shoving them up their asses as sex toys???)

                                                              • Jay Rivera
                                                                Jay Rivera  4 days back

                                                                They have a tough time moving cause there too expensive. $1000 every year is too much. People are holding onto there phones.

                                                                • Jordan
                                                                  Jordan  4 days back

                                                                  Sounds like the free market is finally working, planned obsolescence bullshit

                                                                  • Jordan
                                                                    Jordan  4 days back

                                                                    So people for finally being less retarded falling for planned obsolescence bullshit

                                                                    • Jordan
                                                                      Jordan  4 days back

                                                                      Good, destroying people's lives and the environment for $$$

                                                                      • Jordan
                                                                        Jordan  4 days back

                                                                        Smartphones consume your life, as soon as I can I'm just gonna get the Lightphone and throw my smartphone in the trash

                                                                        • Joseph Lord Ryan
                                                                          Joseph Lord Ryan  4 days back

                                                                          Shoot I have the Alcatel tetra bought it for 50$ have had it for like 2yrs no problem I call text use my internet
                                                                          I would like a iPhone but I'm not willing to spend a 1000 dollars on it

                                                                          • Jesus Bojorquez
                                                                            Jesus Bojorquez  4 days back

                                                                            People realize that they don't need a $1000 phone just for whatsapp, facebook and some pictures. It is not worth it...

                                                                            • - Volmaerion -
                                                                              - Volmaerion -  4 days back

                                                                              *Just quit fucking releasing $800 - $1000 Phones every year for fucks sakes!!!* The idea itself sounds horrible and stomach turning, like who in the right mind would think its a logical decision.

                                                                              I can even go as low as $600 - $700 cuz thats totally not worth it for a *phone* unless if it can run an AAA title.

                                                                              • Miguel Martell
                                                                                Miguel Martell  4 days back

                                                                                New phones arent selling because 2 and 3 year old phones still work just fine and dont warrant spending 800 to 1000 dollars for a new one that does the exact same things or have marginally better cameras

                                                                                • William Ng
                                                                                  William Ng  4 days back

                                                                                  there's so much you can do with 6.5in screen.... when we start typing things, 1/2 screen's gone already....

                                                                                  • manifest 73
                                                                                    manifest 73  5 days back

                                                                                    Phones should be refreshed every 2 years.

                                                                                    • steve wittwer
                                                                                      steve wittwer  5 days back

                                                                                      They need to bring in a new model every 2 years

                                                                                      • Douglas Smith
                                                                                        Douglas Smith  5 days back

                                                                                        I went to a phone shop on base here in korea and the cheapest phone was 400 dollars and even then, that was overpriced considering it was an lg q7. The cheapest phone they would even let me buy cost just as much as a playstation pro, the phone market is a complete scam.

                                                                                        • Douglas Smith
                                                                                          Douglas Smith  5 days back

                                                                                          Of course the slow down of smart phone sales is based off of price. That's the end all be all and will continue to be the driving factor. No phone should cost more than 700. I don't care how fancy it is.

                                                                                          • Dhanar Putra
                                                                                            Dhanar Putra  5 days back

                                                                                            For a geeks, an used flagship smartphone is far wiser to be bought than new flagship.

                                                                                            • nyc now
                                                                                              nyc now  5 days back

                                                                                              Bruh they have a bunch of useless features that the average consumer doesn't care about, I never cared about a fingerprint scanner, never cared about face recognition, all that is bullshit to me, only thing I really did care about is using my phone as a remote controller